I just want to see him with Hailey with his kids in one eipsode to see his reaction to how she would act with his eight kids that are all under the age of ten right now. I think that he might have the biggest wake up call that he probably needs with her, recalling from the interview that he did for abc awhile ago on family secrets. One thing that he said was that he didn't love Kate right noe, but that he loved Hailey, Hailey is the love of his life kind of thing that he said.

i thinm jon is a good dad. just because he is not with kate doesn' mean he is a bad father. take it from someone who is glad that there parents seperated. those kids would be better off like this than to live in a house with their parents fighting all the time and their mom ordering around their dad

I agree Lisa, Kate is working her butt off to make the kids happy and help them to have a great life, and Jon is just being selfish....he needs an attitude check

I think jon loves his kids and is a good parent in alot of ways..but I think he is immature and uses the "I was so young" excuse that doesn't fly w/me. I was 18 when I had my first kid and my husband was 17 get over it. Once you are a father or mother you can't look back and think look what I am missing. There is really nothing you are missing. who wants to wake up sick from partying too much,or the hollow substance of a life w/no person in it with you who loves you..i don't. My kids are far better than all that..maybe that is why my almost grown kids are so darn great..not perfect but to Me...great I wouldn't change a thing.

i agree and disagree..I think you are right no kid wants to listen to their parents fight..and the divorce maybe good in that respect..if jon makes bad dating and new marriage decisions it can be far worse I have seen it first hand. I don't think he is thinking with the right body part right now.
Also at least he stood up to her..i saw what seemed to be her changing alot..but no one is there full time to witness so who knows but them. I lived w/a mom who bossed my dad around and he didn't stand up most the time even for us..so I think it would have gotten better for them rather then worse. He spoke up to her. I speak up to my husband when he is being stupid and he the same for me. We have been married 17yrs and believe me if you both keep your voices it gets far better then you would believe.

In my opinion, Jon is simply putting himself first. Yes, I am sure he loves his kids but there is no place for selfishness in parenthood. I know Kate was 'hard' on him somewhat but some parents need direction. Now look at Kate, she is doing phenomenal at parenthood and handling this divorce. Jon seems to just show up and tries to have a little fun with his kids while Kate does all the work required in raising these kids on a day to day basis. I just wonder how do divorces get SO messy and hateful like this? They should stop the nastiness in the media!